Star Wars Sequels!

So, if you can believe the rumours (Lucasfilm have denied rumours before and then the rumours turned out to be true, so these rumours [which they are denying] must therefore be true!), after the horrible abortive attempt to 3D-ise the Star Wars movies is concluded (and it will be abortive, pay particular attention to the #1 section about 3D), they’re going to start work on the sequel trilogy: Episodes VII, VIII and IX.

I for one would actually quite like to see a sequel trilogy. You know that IV, V and VI would have looked and sounded like I, II and III if the technology had existed. Lucas said himself that that was his vision, and the remastering of IV, V and VI bears this out. Although why the acting quality dropped so badly is anyone’s guess. I would have thought if he created the material himself, and owned the film company, about the biggest budget-eater would be the actors, so you could go top-shelf. But oh well, maybe he owed somebody a favour. Maybe Natalie Portman threatened to kick his arse. Or Hayden … nah, it was Portman.

But be objective about this for just one minute, Star Wars fans. The original trilogy was cutesy and annoying just like the prequel trilogy, and nobody would like it if it came out today. Apart from the CGI and the terrible acting, what are the differences between the original trilogy and the prequel trilogy? Not the script, because Lucas was in charge there and they’ve all been average (Han Solo’s one-liners notwithstanding). Not annoying characters like Jar Jar Binks, because the original trilogy had those in spades. The original trilogy gained classical status by being one of the first, rather than just another sci-fi adventure in a crowded marketplace, and the prequels had the added handicap of having 20 years of expectation and literally generations of fans to be disappointed by anything Lucas came up with.

Given my expectations, I think I was one of the few people not to be disappointed by the prequel trilogy (nor was I all that impressed by it, of course, and I lost even more respect when Lucas diddled with the originals … adding CGI was one thing, but replacing Anakin in the final scene?), and I doubt I would be disappointed by a sequel trilogy. The more sci-fi the better.

Especially if it has Grand Admiral Thrawn in it. Because Grand Admiral Thrawn could shit all over Darth Vader and wipe his arse with Palpatine’s cloak.

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7 Responses to Star Wars Sequels!

  1. dreameling says:

    The original trilogy was cutesy and annoying just like the prequel trilogy

    *gasp*

    *faint*

    For one, the original trilogy had a solid cast, who were actually allowed to act a little, and the main characters were reasonable fleshy: Han, Luke, Leia, Vader, et al. They felt people-ish. Yes, even Vader. The new prequel guys. Cardboard.

    Second, the story and characters got more focus than the effects. The latter served the former. Mostly. Even in Return of the Jedi. Even with the friggin Ewoks. (Let’s just forget the special in the special editions.) And there was humor. Actual, genuine humor.

    Third, The Empire Strikes Back is first and foremost a tightly scripted, extremely well-crafted, lean, solid movie. Neither scripted nor directed, or even produced, by Lucas, by the way.

    Not saying that the original trilogy did not have cutesy and annoying stuff in it, though. See Ewoks above. I wish I could force-choke them all.

    • stchucky says:

      >> The original trilogy was cutesy and annoying just like the
      >> prequel trilogy
      >
      > *gasp*
      >
      > *faint*

      Epsom salts? *offers*

      > For one, the original trilogy had a solid cast, who were
      > actually allowed to act a little, and the main characters
      > were reasonable fleshy: Han, Luke, Leia, Vader, et al.
      > They felt people-ish. Yes, even Vader. The new prequel
      > guys. Cardboard.

      Point. I did mention that the actors were better in the original trilogy, when I might more accurately have said the original trilogy was a film with actors, while the prequel trilogy was basically Ewan McGregor standing like Atlas under a sky made of shit.

      The characters themselves … well, okay. In a fairy-story sort of way that Lucas probably couldn’t get away with today, the characters themselves were more colourful. But this is mainly by comparison. How could you take a back-story like Vader’s, and make it into that?

      > Second, the story and characters got more focus than the
      > effects. The latter served the former. Mostly. Even in
      > Return of the Jedi. Even with the friggin Ewoks. (Let’s
      > just forget the special in the special editions.) And there
      > was humor. Actual, genuine humor.

      Very true, very true. It’s sad to think that in Lucas’s “revisiting” of this trilogy, where he changed things to be more like his intended image of the story, it seemed to go in the same direction, with BSTs (Bright Shiny Things) taking over from the actual story. I’ll willingly accept this as a mark of quality for the old movies over the new, although again 20 years of expectation and a lifetime of loving the old movies has played a part in making the original trilogy look good and the prequel trilogy look bad. Neither trilogy needs help in these respective fields.

      > Third, The Empire Strikes Back is first and foremost
      > a tightly scripted, extremely well-crafted, lean, solid
      > movie. Neither scripted nor directed, or even produced,
      > by Lucas, by the way.

      I did not know that.

      The original Star Wars trilogy has achieved something very few 70s- and 80s-era films manage to do: it has stayed in the mass psyche, it has remained in view and it has retained popularity. Think of all those other films you loved as a kid, then didn’t see for twenty years, then decided to pick up again to watch for purposes of nostalgia. Your childhood memory of their awesomeness is always crushed when you see the films again and find out Steve Gutenberg was in them. They can never measure up to your memory.

      Star Wars, however, never went away. It retained the awesomeness you remember from when you were a kid, and didn’t get that dusted-off-after-twenty-years-and-looked-at-with-new-eyes effect, it somehow stayed alive. And this was a blessing for the old movies, and a huge curse for the new ones, and for anything else Lucas tries to do, ever. Because that is one Hell of an act to follow. I don’t know how Lucas could ever have won that one.

      As such, my expectations were … I won’t say realistic, because that sounds arrogant. I’ll happily say “low”, and admit that my own standards are low, too, when I say I enjoy crappy movies and the new Star Wars movies are no exception. And I’ll probably feel the same way about any sequels Lucas makes.

      > Not saying that the original trilogy did not have
      > cutesy and annoying stuff in it, though. See
      > Ewoks above. I wish I could force-choke them all.

      Don’t worry, you know Endor was a closed ecosystem and about a week after the Rebels broke orbit the entire population was wiped out by Kashyyykian fleas that Chewbacca shed while he was there.

  2. Auri says:

    You seriously think the acting in the original trilogy was good? …mmmkay.

    Now, I love Mark Hamill. I mean that literally. But in 1976 he couldn’t act to save his life. And don’t get me started on Harrison Ford and his Three Facial Expressions. Actually I kind of love the way the bad acting ties all the movies together. Like the silly names.

    And if Lucas puts in EU stuff like Thrawn, I’ll kick his ass.

    (What do you mean, take it easy? Deadly serious, this is!)

    • stchucky says:

      I don’t think it was great, although Harrison Ford at least went on to grow some action hero chops. The story itself doesn’t require much acting. My original point was that there really isn’t that much difference between the old trilogy and the new, in that regard.

      But the acting in IV, V and VI was approximately five jillion times better than the acting in I, II and III, which was just abysmal. Doesn’t mean the acting in IV, V and VI was great, or even good. So I guess you could say this is a difference and a similarity, if you like.

      And I know Thrawn was non-canonical or at best Extended-Universe-canonical, but he’d still take names and take names (he wouldn’t need to kick arse because everybody’s arses would be automatically kicked just by his turning up, leaving him more time to take names, meticulously and thoroughly). And if Lucas is going to fist us with midichlorians, then I demand ysalamiri. I demand ysalamiri!

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